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I have tried to take it to relieve endometriosis and fibromyalgia pain. I tried a brand called Love CBD which had good recommendations. They’re online.

The oil has to dissolve under the tongue, but crickey dick it tastes like the old fags in an ash tray and silage effluent.

It was expensive, and I know I should perciveer but I struggle. I wonder if I should mix it with peppermint oil or something similar. Maybe artificial cake flavouring?

The company also does a CBD cream/balm. I wish I had bought that instead. Maybe that would work for your father’s arthritis? I get sore hands and I bought compression gloves from ebay which help. They also act as a thin layer to keep hands cosy and this in itself helps pain.

I found it an overwhelming experience to research and purchase the oil. I don’t know if I made the right choice.

I have heard you can buy water soluble drops to mix into juice, and CBD sweeties.

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I have been taking it since before our rules changed to exempt it (ie back when it was illegal for medical use here) as I broke my neck 20 years ago and need help to manage pain on a day-to-day basis – headaches and other aches seemed to ease considerably when I started it.

It definitely works for me, and I suspect it would be as effective for arthritis?

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Which company were British Sugar growing hemp / CBD for at Wissington on Countryfile last night?

I didn’t catch their name, but the guest mentioned “two British companies working closely together”.

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As a long term user I am not sure a doctor is needed to be honest. As long as the THC content of the oil is below the 0.2% threshold then its nothing more than a food supplement really. I can’t see why a doctor is needed because you have to build the dose up to where it will benefit you. Everybody is different.

If we are going to go down he route Canada has taken and legalise THC then yes that would need monitoring somehow. Quite how is another matter because illegal canabis plant is widely available in most towns. Turning that into oil is a press so really anybody could do it quite easily.

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As a long term user I am not sure a doctor is needed to be honest. As long as the THC content of the oil is below the 0.2% threshold then its nothing more than a food supplement really. I can’t see why a doctor is needed because you have to build the dose up to where it will benefit you. Everybody is different.

If we are going to go down he route Canada has taken and legalise THC then yes that would need monitoring somehow. Quite how is another matter because illegal canabis plant is widely available in most towns. Turning that into oil is a press so really anybody could do it quite easily.

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Yes thats what I am talking about as well. CBD oil isn’t really that strong as the most potent you can get is 6% depending on bottle size and thats with under 0.2% THC content.

THC is the main health benefit. However this is the stuff that makes you halucinate as its whats found in weed. THC is illegal in this country at anything over 0.2%. BUT and its a big but, its widely available in every town pretty much. Therefore doctors prescribing it is pretty much pointless. This is why Cannabis is a problem to the pharmaceutical companies because they can’t take over the worlds supply of it as its already widely established. So if it can’t come through the correct channels then doctors cannot prescribe it. The reason its not legalised here is because nobody can make any money out of it other than the small individual dealers who are already operating.

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Yes thats what I am talking about as well. CBD oil isn’t really that strong as the most potent you can get is 6% depending on bottle size and thats with under 0.2% THC content.

THC is the main health benefit. However this is the stuff that makes you halucinate as its whats found in weed. THC is illegal in this country at anything over 0.2%. BUT and its a big but, its widely available in every town pretty much. Therefore doctors prescribing it is pretty much pointless. This is why Cannabis is a problem to the pharmaceutical companies because they can’t take over the worlds supply of it as its already widely established. So if it can’t come through the correct channels then doctors cannot prescribe it. The reason its not legalised here is because nobody can make any money out of it other than the small individual dealers who are already operating.

Cannabis is not a problem to big pharma. They will be able to produce and pharm the stuff far better and more cheaply than any backyard drug dealer and formulate it in a much safer tablet form. You seem to be confusing medicinal grade drugs with amateur drug production: they are not the same.

Lots of prescription drugs have hallucinations listed as a potential side effect. Lots are also based upon natural plant extracts or other natural sources only formulated and produced in a more refined form. Doctors will never be able to prescribe cannabis as some kind of burn it and smoke it remedy. That is nonsensical and will never happen nor is there any need for it. Smoking substances is bad for you. There is no need to smoke cannabis, they can refine the active ingredient and get it into your body far more effectively and without expecting your lungs to cope with particulates lining your mucus membranes.

Big pharma have always been able to manufacture and formulate drugs cheaper than any drug dealer, and produce a far purer, safer and quality controlled product. Most of the illegal drugs for sale in the West today are full adulterated crap that should never be allowed near a human body. If the UK government would allow it, I would be in favour of the NHS giving serious drug addicts their fix on prescription; they would not need to enter prostitution, deal drugs or commit other crimes to fund their habits and so their net cost to society would actually drop in a huge way, most of these active ingredients, literally grow on trees and require virtually zero R and D compared to the latest cancer or stem cell treatments. I would be willing to bet a single dose of pharmaceutical grade heroin, from known and licensed suppliers, is actually cheaper than methadone or what any drug dealer could afford to flog it for.

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I think your getting confused. THC which is the main medicinal part of the plant is illegal in this country. You can produce a single cannabis plant for around £20 depending on variety/strain. Of that 15% of the plant will end up as pure oil with around 15-20% THC content. So using very basic maths you can get strong THC oil for £20.

Strong CBD oil is around £200.

THC is what you need but you won’t get the big pharmaceutical companies selling THC at £20 I can assure you.

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I think your getting confused. THC which is the main medicinal part of the plant is illegal in this country. You can produce a single cannabis plant for around £20 depending on variety/strain. Of that 15% of the plant will end up as pure oil with around 15-20% THC content. So using very basic maths you can get strong THC oil for £20.

Strong CBD oil is around £200.

THC is what you need but you won’t get the big pharmaceutical companies selling THC at £20 I can assure you.

What the active ingredient is or whether it is illegal or not is all largely irrelevant. Big pharma can produce it far cheaper than any other nefarious source and it will be a known, unadulterated source and more importantly, licensed source. They can do this because trained chemists will work out ways of manufacturing the active ingredient in a very efficient, mass production process in a controlled process. If they can make medical grade morphine available for less than £5 for 300ml, a bit of something derived from cannabis oil should be no sweat.

GPs aren’t going to be allowed to prescribe anything that is not approved by the trust in question, certainly not for a drug with such spectacular side effects and with the potential for it to be abused, there is a huge legal framework in place to provide drugs to patients in a safe and controlled way. It is not there simply to be driven over head-long because patients think they know better.

Legalising cannabis and making it legal to prescribe the active ingredient in drug for are two entirely different things. It is already illegal to abuse many prescription medications, and for good reason. I am in favour of making the active ingredient in cannabis available for medicinal purposes, recognising that it does indeed show promise in a lot of situations where alternatives may be more problematic or less effective. I am not in favour of just giving society a carte blanche to do whatever they like. Cannabis is a huge problem for society as it is, due to the health effects it has. These effect are probably justifiable for patients presenting with cases of chronic pain or in end of life situations, but I would question how wise it would be to allow unrestricted cannabis use to society in view of the huge costs that would result from battling the inevitable decline of the mental health of people using it long term.

Arguments like: ‘the law can’t stop people taking it’ or; ‘it should be legal because it is not addictive’ are utterly nonsensical; if that logic is all that is required to legalise a potent medication then I have a list of my own requirements I want to be able to buy from the pharmacist of my own volition: sleeping pills, barbiturates and also fentanyl would suit me down to the ground can we legalise them as well?

Anyone on hear use CBD oil for it pain relief properties ? PM if you like ! Thinking of it for my dad for his arthritis

Have you tried CBD oil?

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CBD oil is Federally legally across the United States if it is manufactured in an appropriate manner. As long as THC levels are below 0.03, the government supports the distribution of it. My Dad tried a few different types of CBD oil to see if it would help with issues like muscle stiffness and anxiety. He’s not convinced that it had much of an impact. Have you tired CBD oil? Did you notice a difference? Was there a specific kind of tincture that you used?

I used but nothing happened for better situation. 😔

I have used CBD oil for about two years. I find that it relaxes my muscles and get rid of the stiffness and soreness. I was getting Botox shots, but the CBD oil works just as well, And it’s considerably cheaper. It also helps me sleep.

I tried the highest strength of Charlotte’s Web for my relative with late-stage Parkinson’s and dementia. I found that it definitely did *something*— when we gave it to him in reaction to bad off periods (spasms, pain, etc.) there was about a 50%-60% chance that it would make the spasms go away and completely relax him… but only for about 30 to 45 minutes.

We also tried a daily dose but could not identify a change in his on-off pattern or in the severity of the off periods. Presumably a higher dose would help (if the bottle contains what it says it contains; gotta be careful about that now in the Amazon era), but it was already many times the cost of his normal meds for a very limited benefit, so we discontinued it.

(With apologies for going somewhat off-topic, we later tried TouchPoints, and they have proved more effective at the same goal—inducing muscular relaxation—and way more cost-effective. There’s a thread on them somewhere in these forums.)

yes but no results

I believe CBD is a placebo unless taken at extremely high and potentially toxic doses. It doesn’t bind to the receptors of the endocannabinoid system. It has been speculated that it may boost your body’s endocannabinoid production, but I don’t buy it. Any non-placebo effects of CBD are mainly from the THC in the oil.

I’ve had similar thoughts, that THC (the anecdotal stories of what it might do are very interesting), along with maybe a dose-dependent anti-inflammatory effect (and the general health benefits associated with reduction of inflammation) might be what is really going on with cannabidiol.

On the latter possibility, it is certainly an old trick of the supplement industry to pump a legit study and, once there is enough excitement about the subject of the study, to push supplements containing far less of the magical ingredient than was used in the study.

Wife With Parkinson’s takes Greenforia CBD 1000mg Full Spectrum Tincture twice a day under her tongue. She swears by it. It helps with muscle pain and stiffness. She takes one dose in the morning and one at bedtime for sleep. It is very effective for her anxiety which triggers her tremors.

CBD does not interfere with her meds and her doctor supports her taking it.

We have learned that the quality of the CBD is very important. We have tried other brands, even the one mentioned in an earlier post, without desired effects. The Greenforia brand seems to be of high quality and it is thirds party tested for purity.

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Andrew- that definitely could be the case. But there’s evidence that suggests that even if you know something is a placebo, it can have positive impacts on your body. For that reason, I like to come up with little tricks for my Dad (diagnosed in 2013).

“Dad, here’s a miracle shampoo I read about on the internet. It’s supposed to help with tremors.”

He doesn’t usually buy it. But I think that we should explore the placebo effect a little bit more with PD.

My patient family asked for CBD , so I was giving to him when he was getting anxious , but I did not notice any difference in physical or mental behavior , maybe was calming effect lil bit

donboop, you need to realize that not all CBD’s are equal in quality and strengths. You need to find the correct brand that will work for your patient. We have found that the Greenforia CBD Full Spectrum 1000mg works the best. Not only for anxiety for for sore muscles and stiffness. Good luck.

Mary- Here is the deal as I see it today (am always learning) after much consultation with respected physicians in the field…THC is not a placebo unlike CBD. Taken in relative “microdoses” (the only way to do this scientifically is with capsules, otherwise the actual ingested dose is guesswork, particularly if smoked), it does decrease anxiety, causes some pain relief (prob not as much as advil but noted nonetheless), and helps with sleep. It is also a mild appetite stimulant. Only other “side effect” is feeling of mild euphoria, which prob gives it addiction potential; however this is certainly better (imo) than Parkinson’s depression/anxiety. Sativa vs. indica prob not an issue at microdoses. Some neurologists be concerned with longer term cognitive impairment, however studies don’t support this and I don’t think this is a long term problem with the proper dosing . As with any medicine, risks must be weighed versus benefits for each patient. Thus not for everyone, and definitively needs to be done under competent physician supervision. Disclaimer: None of this is medical advice, just sharing what I know.

I have also been told that to get a similar effect with CBD one would have to take up to 50x or more CBD than is normally “prescribed” and this is associated with liver toxicity. Stated differently , to get the same beneficial effects using CBD versus micro dosed THC, one would have to take a toxic dose.

Can you whitey from CBD? That’s my main fear and which is why I haven’t smoked weed ever since I had that experience.

CBD oil is Federally legally across the United States if it is manufactured in an appropriate manner. As long as THC levels are below 0.03, the government